Petén to Villahermosa, MX part 2

We left the border crossing of El Ceibo at 2pm. 5 minutes down the road is a military checkpoint. The military in Mexico is different from the Guatemalan military in that they are very rude. They also ask you the same questions over and over again while at the same time insulting your spanish. They ask to see lots of paperwork that I had but is not really necessary or under their jurisdiction. Luckily I took along every scrap of information including my water bill from my house in Petén... the fat guy in charge asked to see proof of everything. After about 15 minutes of verbal abuse and the military guys going through every bag you have (which the customs guys just did 5 minutes before) they wave you along.

Your first big town that has gas stations is called Tenosique. It is about an hour from the border. The road to here is paved, two lanes and traffic is almost non-existant. Before you enter the town there is a Police checkpoint. They will ask to see all of your documents and may want to search your vehicle. These guys didn't do that but luckily for us there was another checkpoint 5 meters from them that did want us to open the doors at least and write down the same information. As you leave Tenosique this exact same situation happened. The first guys wrote down my name, driver's license number and vehicle plate numbers. 5 meters from them I was waved over again and searched while the same information was written down. By this time I was really annoyed. This was apparently a special day for searches and in Mexico I guess a Gringo driving a Toyota minibus with Guatemalan plates seems suspicious enough to want to check out. At half of all of our checkpoints this day I was asked how much a Toyota like mine is worth in Guatemala.

From Tenosique we just followed the highway. You can tell that Mexico has been much more deforested than Guatemala, but many sights are similar. There are people selling things like strings of fish on the side of the road. Again, very little traffic heading north and very few gas stations. We arrived in Villahermosa around 6pm, because we were stopped by military and searched two more times before arriving in Villahermosa. Just before you get to the city there was a 33 peso toll both (probably less for a car). Unfortunately I found out that the hotel signs and directions are only posted for the people heading from the north into Villahermosa, so we didn't find the hotel until leaving town and turning around. Not much tourism from southern Mexico I guess. We made it all the way to Villahermosa from Libertad, Petén with one 16 gallon tank of diesel.

In Villahermosa we were slightly disappointed by what we found. We ate at some normal US chain restaurants, but they were the same ones you can find in Guatemala City. There was a Walmart, Sam's Club and Home Depot, but all three were Mexican versions with a US name. One big find was a large, tankless LP water heater which was the same price as in the States and larger than what I could find in Guate. Saved me having to find somebody to fly down with it and an oversize baggage fee. Also at Home Depot I found some accessories for my water pump, which saved me having to find them in Guate. We bought some bowls for our bathroom sinks, but this was at the Mexican store Madeco. Our purchases at Walmart were Cheerios and some white t-shirts. We didn't see anything at Sam's that warranted buying a membership.

I bought a TelCel phone chip at a kiosk outside Sam's. In Mexico the laws are harsher than in Guatemala, so it didn't automatically work. It actually never worked at all. I tried all of the registration steps from my hotel room while reading the help files in Spanish and even took the phone with chip to a TelCel office where they offered to register it for me in somebody else's name. A foreigner cannot get a Mexican chip in their name. No phone calls worked, but I did have access to 3G and used up all my prepaid minutes on that. I guess I could have sent an emergency email if I'd needed to. Anyways, bring a chip with international roaming, don't assume you'll be able to use your unlocked cell.

Starbucks, not something we have or need in Guatemala. Same as in the States.

The Home Depot was very small and filled with mostly US reject items.

While the Walmart was much like The Home Depot, the Sam's was probably the closest thing to what you'd expect to see in the States. Unfortunately I didn't need a trampoline or a giant tub of mayonnaise on this trip.

We left Villahermosa Friday morning at 10:30am from our hotel and were at the border around 1:30pm. It was much quicker heading south. We were charged 33 pesos again to leave the toll road and were not stopped until Tenosique. On the way into town the nice police officer took my information and asked if I would like to collaborate with some change to help him buy a chicken. He and the other guys wanted a snack. I told him not today and he waved me on with just a "next time then!" On the way out of town I was stopped again and this time they wanted to look inside the vehicle. The large man in charge took the opportunity to lecture me on Arizona's immigration laws, of which he showed he knew nothing. It wouldn't have helped my case to point that out to him so I nodded my head and drove south. 5 minutes from the border we were stopped again by the same Army checkpoint but this time a young guy asked me where I was going in Guatemala, he yelled my destination to a young woman sitting on a bench a few meters from the road and to her negative head shake he waved me by.

So, heading north will cost you about an hour in checkpoints if you are unlucky enough to travel the day that they care.

At the border the Mexicans were really straightforward. I took the sticker off of my windshield and went inside to get my money back. It was very straightforward and took about 10 minutes. The immigration guys stamped our passports and we crossed to Guatemala.

New 90 day visas for Guatemala cost us Q10/person. At the Belize border crossing they never charge us that fee however. Also, at Belize they rarely mention the 72 hour rule* whereas here it was their first question and they checked the dates in our passports. While the information I had before was that there was no Guatemalan Customs official at the border, this is no longer true. There is a trailer there and an official who is never inside. The same guys who will charge you Q39 to fumigate your vehicle will look at your stuff. If you tell them it is all for personal use there is no charge and you can be on your way.

The Guatemalan Customs office. The immigration office is up the hill behind this. The bank trailer (Banrural) does not exchange money and is only there for paying taxes if assessed.

The same money changers were there as before. Their exchange rate is Q7/$1 or .63 pesos/1 quetzal, so if you can wait until you get to a bank it is worth it for dollars. No Guatemalan bank here takes pesos, so spend them before you get to the border or just take a hit at the border. There is no gas station in Guatemala until you get to Libertad, except that there is a house about an hour into your trip back that has a wooden sign in front saying COMBUSTIBLE. They have some gas cans and I'm sure can help you out in a pinch.

For those of you making this trip, on the Mexican side there are at least 4 signs for different ruins and eco parks before you get to Tenosique.

*Official Guatemalan immigration law states that when your tourist visa expires you must leave the country for 72 hours before returning. While we did this by choice on this trip, most border officials do not care and we have always been able to leave in the morning and come back that same afternoon. This does not give us any confidence however and we always pack an overnight bag in case somebody does decide to enforce the law.

Driving from Petén to Villahermosa, MX part 1

On Thanksgiving one of our missionary friends mentioned that the road was now paved between Naranjo, Petén and the border of Mexico. When we moved to Petén, there was no border crossing with Mexico that you could drive through. Because of this we travelled to Belize to get our paperwork.

This new information set me to researching and I found very little information about the border crossing at El Ceibo. I did find that in the city of Villahermosa there are not only Walmarts and a Sam's Club, there is also a Home Depot. Looking at the Home Depot website, prices advertised were less than half of those we can obtain in Guatemala for fixtures of lesser quality. Because we are at the point that we need to buy things like toilets, sinks and doors, we thought it would be a good idea to check it out in person. It appeared that the time driving to Villahermosa would be close to the time it takes to go to Guatemala City, so if we could also complete a Visa renewal and get cheaper stuff for our house, it seemed like it was worth the risk. Here is how our trip went:

We left La Libertad at 10:30am (after dropping off 8 boxes of school supplies at an elementary school close to there) in the direction of Naranjo. There are over 80 speed bumps on this road with almost 2 of them painted and marked. A good rule of thumb is that if there are houses next to the road, there is a speed bump in front of them even if you can't see it. There was a clear sign showing the road to Mexico about 8 km before you get to Naranjo.

At 12:30pm we arrived at the border. You first have to park on the road and take your passports to immigration. I was able to take all four passports to the immigration trailer without having to take the boys out of their car seats. We were several weeks expired on our visas which usually entails a Q10 fine per day per passport. There was nothing I could do about this as my lawyer had my passport for 2 months in Guatemala city while changing the title and plates on our micro. I mentioned this to the officer so that I didn't get a lecture or a disapproving glance like I was trying to hide something as has happened at the Belize border. He acted like he didn't hear me, stamped the passports without asking me for any money and told me that I was done. I guess it wasn't worth his trouble.

I then went to the Sat trailer to show my vehicle information so they would let me leave. This was my longest wait in Guatemala as the money changers had to get the Sat agent from the Banrural trailer where he was flirting with the teller. He looked at my stuff and said I could go.

I exchanged all of my quetzales into pesos at 100 quetzales for 150 pesos and drove to the Mexican side.

It was immediately different from the Guatemalan side. There I was greeted by a Mexican official who told the me entire process before fumigating my vehicle and then pointing me towards a parking spot. There I was greeted by a customs official who asked to see inside my bags, confiscated my beef jerky (it is prohibited to import beef products from the States even though I came from Guatemala), and told me everything was great. While this process was going on two immigration officers were working on my paperwork for our visas. There was no charge and I was able to sign for all four visas including my wife's. I was told to pay 60 pesos for the fumigation and directed to the far area to get my vehicle permit.

I came with all of my information: registration card, passport, Driver's license, Mexican insurance purchased through Sanborn the day before and printed up at home (which the guy didn't care about) and vehicle title. I was then informed that I would need to pay $436 in American cash. They do not have credit card capability and there is no ATM anywhere around. $36 is the price of the permit and $400 is a deposit that will be returned to me when I leave Mexico with my Microbus. (The deposit is tiered: 2004 and newer is $400, 2001-2004 is $300 and anything older than 2001 is $200.)

When I asked how I was supposed to get American dollars I was told to go talk to the money changers back in Guatemala. He did advise me that they would charge 14 or 15 pesos/dollar (the exchange they offered me before was 1 dollar for 11 pesos) but he knew a guy in the office that would do it for 13. I didn't have enough pesos anyway, so I would still have to go to Guatemala, exchange for pesos from quetzales and then come back and exchange for dollars to pay my deposit.

Well I haven't lived in Guatemala for over 4 years to get ripped off by a Mexican, so I went directly and found out the Guatemalans would give me dollars for only 12.5 pesos. The only problem was that they don't have dollars with them and I would have to wait for them to go to their house and come back. They came back with $300 instead of $400 so I had to wait for them to go back home again and come back. After 30 minutes I came back to the vehicle guy who had thankfully already processed all of my stuff. Here we found that the only $50 bill the guys gave me was ripped and he wouldn't accept it, even though he's supposedly going to give it back to me on Friday. He told me I would have to go back and exchange the $50 for another $50 bill. Not wanting to go through that again I gave him 650 pesos (50 x 13) so that he could exchange with the guy later (probably himself), and I was given my permit and all of my paperwork.

I should also say that in this office are two very well maintained public bathrooms. You will not find the same thing on the Guatemalan side or anywhere near here going either direction.

So I took an hour longer than I needed to at the border. The total time should have taken less than a half hour with both sides of the border. We left the border at 2pm in the direction of Tenosique (the only direction the highway will take you.)

My next post will detail our drive through Mexico and arriving in Villahermosa. I will say that whether in Guatemala or in Mexico, my new Garmin Nuvi would have been worthless if I had not previously studied several different road maps and had that information in my head. None of the necessary roads even exist on the GPS, let alone have them in the right spot. It is necessary to know ahead of time exactly where you are going and what towns you will be passing on the way in case you need to ask for directions. Please do not trust a GPS.